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UNESCO RILA: the sounds of integration

Welcome to the podcast channel UNESCO RILA: The sounds of integration. 

Here you will find all the episodes created by the team and by invited guest podcasters (latest episode first). This podcast is about integration, about the sounds it makes and about the feelings, thoughts and ripples it causes. In short: an eclectic mix, just like integration itself. New episodes are released every fortnight.

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Episode 30: Poetry with Sawsan Al-Areeqe (10/05/2022)

Listen to UNESCO RILA Affiliate Artist Sawsan Al-Areeqe reading out three of her poems in Arabic and English. Scroll down for her biography.

Sawsan Al-Areeqe is a poet and filmmaker from Yemen. She is the author of four poetry collections. The Square of Pain was the subject of a documentary film as a graduation project (Sana’a 2004). More Than Necessary received the Literature Award from Lebanon (2007). What if My Blood Turned into Chocolate won the Creative Award in Sana’a (2011). Her fourth collection, Expired Death, was written during her APF Fellowship in Glasgow University (2018|2019). Previously, Sawsan held a writer’s residence position in the USA, following an invitation from Iowa University’s International Writing Program (2013). She is the winner of the British Council’s 2010 Zoom Film Contest for her short Prohibited, the (Special Jury Prize) at the 2012 Meknes International Film Festival, (The Best Idea) at the 2014 Teba Short Films Festival in Egypt, (The Main Theme) at 2018 in Italy and (Award of Merit) at 2018 in Canada for her short Photo. Participated in her short Daughter of the Sea at the 2011 Liverpool Arabic Film Festival. Sawsan was selected to participate as a member in the committee of arbitration in the Arab Short Films Festival in Morocco 2013. Recently, she was chosen with the selection team for the International Spot Shot Films Festival 2021.

Episode 29: Jason Oliver on binary structures and the post-covid society (26/04/2022)

Jason Oliver from the Scottish Crannog centre gives us ideas for how we can live together in the post-pandemic world.

Unesco RILA · E29 Jason Oliver on binary structures and the post-covid societyJason Oliver is a neurodivergent artist and experimental archaeologist. He is a Royal College of Art graduate and now works at The Scottish Crannog Centre where he focuses on prehistoric textiles – making, understanding and storytelling about the people who lived on Loch Tay 2,500 years ago. He is also the founder of You’re On Mute, an artist collective funded by Future’s Venture Radical Arts Fund, that connects marginalised artists across the Highlands and Islands of Scotland. 

Jason Oliver is a neurodivergent artist and experimental archaeologist. He is a Royal College of Art graduate and now works at The Scottish Crannog Centre where he focuses on prehistoric textiles – making, understanding and storytelling about the people who lived on Loch Tay 2,500 years ago. He is also the founder of You’re On Mute, an artist collective funded by Future’s Venture Radical Arts Fund, that connects marginalised artists across the Highlands and Islands of Scotland. 

The Scottish Crannog Centre is a Museum situated on the banks of Loch Tay. The team at the Crannog Centre interpret the lives of Crannog Dwellers who lived on the Loch 2,500 years ago through guided tours, a museum holding the artefacts left behind and showcasing the many skills and technologies of the past with hands on demonstrations. They are looking for volunteers at the moment. For more information, please visit

Episode 28: Collaborative Keynote Listener Poem 2021 (12/04/2022)

In this final episode of our series Sounds of the Spring School 2021, UNESCO RILA Artist in Residence Tawona Sitholé reads out the keynote listener poem, created by participants of the UNESCO RILA Spring School: The Arts of Integrating 2021. 

Click here to download the Collaborative keynote listener poem 2021

Episode 27: A Settler View from Ongoing Colonized Lands (08/03/2022)

Welcome to a new episode in the series The Sounds of Unsettled Objects. In this episode you will hear Laura Phillips' presentation A Settler View from Ongoing Colonized Lands, presented at the Unsettled Objects: post-colonial perceptions of belonging, exile and home global forum on 28 September 2021. For the full programme, please click here. For the best experience, also view Laura's slides on our Slideshare page.

This session will challenge the notion of post-colonial from the perspective of a settler of white Euro-Welsh/English/Irish ancestry living in what is now known as Canada. Museums, heritage spaces and other memory institutions are only beginning to grapple with decolonizing approaches to working and presenting stories that place unacknowledged and unstated colonial norms under scrutiny. Settler museum professionals are reckoning with processes of un-learning and re-learning as we undertake the uncomfortable work of understanding what our presence on these lands is complicit with, and who we have (and continue to) displace. Conversations around Reconciliation for settlers are slowly taking hold and museums are looking at ways to decolonizing practices beyond exhibit content and development.
Laura's PhD research has focused on expanding narratives beyond Euro-Enlightenment era concepts and world views currently reflected in the Miller Museum of Geology at Queen’s University in Ka’tarohkwi / Kingston. In this presentation, she presents a summary of her research, reflections on new museum futures and her desires to re-learn forgotten aspects of her own ancestral cultures.
Laura Phillips, B.A. Hons (Classical Studies, Western University); Pg.Dip (Professional Archaeology, Oxford); MPhil (Archaeology, Bristol); PhD Candidate (Cultural Studies, Queen’s University). As a scholar of settler ancestry with origins in Ireland, England and Wales, her goal is to have decolonizing conversations with her fellow settlers in what is now Canada, especially around the work of museums and memory institutions. Her professional experience includes the Ashmolean Museum, the Pitt Rivers Museum, Bristol City Museum & Art Gallery, English Heritage, the National Trust, Qatar Museums, The Wolfsonian Institution and Aanischaaukamikw Cree Cultural Institute. She co-facilitates the course ‘Decolonizing Museums in Practice’ ( and has taught at Queen’s University and the University of Toronto.

Episode 26: Language in a Globalised World with Khawla Badwan (01/02/2022)

Welcome to the third episode of our series The Sounds of Good Books. Interviewer Dr Maria Grazia Imperiale is talking to Kwahla Badwan about her latest book Language in a Globalised World. Scroll down for their biographies. 

Buy the book here.

Dr Khawla Badwan is Senior Lecturer in TESOL and Applied Linguistics at Manchester Metropolitan University. She is the author of Language in a Globalised World: Social Justice Perspectives on Mobility and Contact (2021), published by Palgrave. Her work includes an interest in language education, social justice, sociolinguistics of mobility, new materialist approaches to intercultural communication, and literacy debates.

Dr Maria Grazia Imperiale is a Lecturer in Adult Education (School of Education, University of Glasgow). Her work focuses on language and intercultural education with refugees and adult migrants. She has conducted research in several ODA contexts, e.g. Ethiopia, Lebanon and Palestine.

Episode 25: The Invention of Multilingualism with David Gramling (part 2) (17/01/2022)

In this second episode of our series The Sounds of Good Books, Alison Phipps, Charles Forsdick and Tawona Sitholé continue their conversation with Prof David Gramling from the University of British Columbia, about his latest book The Invention of Multilingualism

For the full show notes, please see episode 23 of this podcast.

Episode 24: Sensation of Blackness (21/12/2021)

This episode is a condensed version of a discussion we organised for Black History Month 2021, entitled Sensation of Blackness. Please scroll down for a full list of all the speakers.

In this episode you will hear, in order of appearance, the voices and comments of:

Tawona Sitholé - UNESCO RILA Artist in Residence, poet, playwright, mbira musician, educator and facilitator
Bella Matambanadzeblack African feminist activist and writer
Ropafadzo Zinyuke - writer and poet
ShaNon Bobinger - media presenter and systemic life and business coach
Emmanuel Zinyuke - member of the audience
PJ Samuels - poet, spoken word artiste, educator, and LGBTI human rights activist
Pauline Brown - Equality activist, psychotherapist and historian, Glasgow
Gameli Tordzro - UNESCO RILA Artist in Residence
Nyakel Youdid - member of the audience
Alison Phipps - UNESCO Chair in Refugee Integration through Languages and the Arts

Biographies of the invited speakers:

Bella Matambanadzo
Bella Matambanadzo is a black African feminist activist and writer from Zimbabwe who has been published in #New Daughters of Africa (Ed Margaret Busby) Writing Mystery and Mayhem (Ed Irene Staunton) the southern African feminist review SAFERE (Ed Patrica McFadden) and African Sexualities (Ed Sylvia Tamale) and elsewhere.

Ropafadzo Zinyuke
Ropafadzo Zinyuke is a Zimbabwean studying Environmental Studies in Canada. She is an upcoming writer, whose first publication in 2016 was very well received. It received second prize in a national competition in Zimbabwe. She has since published a number of short stories and poems online, which she intends to compile into a book.
Her publications:
Power and Greed
Behold your king of fools
Voices within the silence
Instagram: Minx_Shy_Freak

ShaNon Bobinger
ShaNon Bobinger is a media presenter and systemic life and business coach. After many years of presenting for channels such as Tide TV and ALEX TV, as well as The Muay Thai Diary and producing her own interview formats @sippingrealiteas, the focus of her presenting is on social change, with the aim of using inclusive, multi-perspective and diverse communication to promote interactive dialogue and exchange. Her work as a life coach follows a systemic approach, focussing on personal development in an intercultural context.

Episode 23: The Invention of Multilingualism with David Gramling (part 1) (07/12/2021)

This episode is the first in our new series The sounds of good books. Tawona Sitholé, Charles Forsdick and Alison Phipps are interviewing Prof David Gramling from the University of British Columbia about his latest book The Invention of Multilingualism. Please scroll down for more information about the book and the speakers.

Multilingualism is a capacious idea about human meaning-making practice, one with a promising, tumultuous, and flawed present - and a future worth caring for in research and public life. In this book, David Gramling presents new insights into the subject of multilingualism, describing its powerful social, economic and political discourses. On one hand, it is under acute pressure to bear the demands of new global supply-chains, profit margins, and supranational unions, and on the other it is under pressure to make way for what some consider to be better descriptors of linguistic practice, such as translanguaging. The book shows how multilingualism is usefully able to encompass complex, divergent, and sometimes opposing experiences and ideas, in a wide array of planetary contexts - fictitious and real, political and social, North and South, colonial and decolonial, individual and collective, oppressive and liberatory, embodied and prosthetic, present and past.

David Gramling

David Gramling is Professor of German Studies and Head of the Department of Central, Eastern, and Northern European Studies at the University of British Columbia, Canada. He has published six books, all of which are worth adding to your Christmas reading list:

  • The Invention of Multilingualism (Cambridge University Press, 2021)
  • The Invention of Monolingualism (Bloomsbury 2016, American Association for Applied Linguistics Book Award, 2018)
  • co-author of Palliative Care Conversations: Clinical and Applied Linguistic Perspectives (De Gruyter 2019, with Robert Gramling)
  • Linguistic Disobedience: Restoring Power to Civic Language (Palgrave 2019, with Yuliya Komska and Michelle Moyd)
  • Germany in Transit: Nation and Migration 1955–2005 (University of California Press 2007 with Deniz Göktürk and Anton Kaes)
  • Transit Deutschland: Debatten zu Nation und Migration (Konstanz University Press / Wallstein Verlag, with Deniz Göktüurk, Anton Kaes, and Andreas Langenohl).

For more information about David and his work, please see his UBC staff profile.

Charles Forsdick

Charles Forsdick is James Barrow Professor of French at the University of Liverpool and Adjunct Professor in Translation Studies, Xi’an Jiaotong-Liverpool University. From 2012 until 2021 he was AHRC Theme Leadership Fellow for 'Translating Cultures'. He has published widely on travel writing, colonial history, postcolonial literature, comics, penal culture and the afterlives of slavery. He is also a specialist on Haiti and the Haitian Revolution, and has written in particular about representations of Toussaint Louverture.

For the full list of Charles' publications and for more information about his research interests, please see his University of Liverpool staff page

Tawona Sitholé

Tawona Sitholé is Artist in Residence with the UNESCO RILA team, as well as Research Associate with the Migration for Development and Equality project and Poet in Residence for GRAMNet

Alison Phipps

Prof Alison Phipps holds the UNESCO Chair in Refugee Integration through Languages and the Arts and does too many other things to list here, so please visit her UofG staff page for more information about her research and her publications.

Episode 22: Caring and Sharing (23/11/2021)

This episode is the second in our series Sounds of Unsettled Objects, a collection of episodes created from presentations at the global forum Unsettled Objects: post-colonial perceptions of belonging, exile and home, which took place on 28-30 September 2021, in collaboration with Glasgow Museums. The discussion you will hear is a condensed version of the discussion between Neil Curtis and Eve Haddow. For full speaker details, please scroll down. 

Speakers in order of appearance:

Patricia Allan - Curator of World Cultures at Glasgow Museums
Neil Curtis - Head of Museums and Special Collections at the University of Aberdeen
Eve Haddow - Research Assistant in archaeology, collections and Australian South Sea Islander lived identities at the University of Sydney
Mark Hall - Collections Officer at Perth Museums & Art Gallery

To find out more about the Unsettled Objects forum, please take a look at the full programme.

Episode 21: Unsettled Objects opening discussion (09/11/2021)

This episode is the first in our new series Sounds of Unsettled Objects, which is a collection of episodes created from presentations at the global forum Unsettled Objects: post-colonial perceptions of belonging, exile and home, which took place on 28-30 September 2021, in collaboration with Glasgow Museums. In this episode we have tried to capture some of the thinking that came out of the Opening Ceremony on 28 September 2021.

The speakers that feature in this episode are, in order of appearance:

Clare Robertson - UNESCO RILA Affiliate Artist, with her song Mandela. You can listen to the full song in episode 8 of this podcast.

Alison Phipps - UNESCO Chair in Refugee Integration through languages and the Arts

Patricia Allan - Curator of World Cultures at Glasgow Museums

Dr Gameli Todzro - Artist in Residence at UNESCO RILA

Naa Densua Tordzro - UNESCO RILA Affiliate Artist and Research Assistant on MIDEQ

Tawona Sitholé - Artist in Residence at UNESCO RILA

Stuart Taylor - Artist, Consultant, Therapise, Aikido Sensei, Decolonial Cartographer and Pollinator for Social Innovation

Christine Alford - Writer and Researcher 

Harriet Parry - University of Brighton

Ahadi Lugo - Co-Founder of Mijikenda Heritage Trust & a member of the Vigango resting place project

To find out more about the Unsettled Objects forum, please take a look at the full programme.

Episode 20: By the fire at The Scottish Crannog Centre part 2 (26/10/2021)

This second episode, recorded over the weekend of 9-10 October 2021 at the Scottish Crannog Centre’s Celtic Autumn Story Weaving Weekend as part of the Scottish International Storytelling Festival, you will hear more songs and stories. Scroll down for the full list of voices from this episode. 

After the introduction by Dr Gameli Tordzro and Alison Phipps, you will hear:

Naa Densua Tordzro with a song called Bonwire Kente. The song was composed and sang by a renowned Ghananian Composer, the late Dr. Ephram Amu. It was composed and sang in Twi, one of the Akan dialects in Ghana. It is an educational piece of music that is used to teach people about Kente weaving and it can also be sang as a recreation song.

Christine Kammerer with lullaby she wrote in 2021 as a gift to her friend's newborn baby. It is called “Eversong”.

Rena Gertz with a Gaelic song is called 'A phiuthrag 's a phiuthar' - Oh sister, my sister. A young woman has been abducted by the faeries and taken underground into a sithean, a fairy hill. She's calling out to her sister to rescue her. It's a very old song and this version probably comes from Barra as it mentions Heaval, the highest hill on Barra. The German song is called 'Es war einmal ein Fischer' - Once upon a time there was a fisherman. His daughter is blind and every night she goes to the seashore to sing to the wind and the waves. One day a stranger arrives, his hand cold and pale, he asks her to be his love and takes her with him deep into the ocean, into his kingdom. Her final words to her father are, 'please don't cry. On earth it was so dark, here there is eternal light'. 

You will hear from Dr Gameli Tordzro with an Anlɔ Eʋe Afa divination folklore story from Ghana about gratitude and friendship, called "Nu Nɔamesi Gake Wonaanu Ame Woxɔnɛ. He ends with a song in Eʋegbe that summarises the story.

Another song by Christine Kammerer called Savage Daughter. It is a song by Karen L. Unrein (Kahan, written in 1990) and Christine has  become very fond of it, because it has such defiance and empowerment embedded in the words and the melody. She loves to share it with others and see the light of empowerment and connection shining in their eyes as well.

For more information about these fantastic singers and storytellers and for the links to the Scottish Crannog Centre, please see the previous episode.

Episode 19: By the fire at The Scottish Crannog Centre part 1 (18/10/2021)

This podcast episode was recorded over the weekend of 9-10 October 2021, at the Scottish Crannog Centre in Kenmore. They hosted their Celtic Autumn Story Weaving Weekend as part of the Scottish International Storytelling Festival and the UNESCO RILA team was invited to contribute and participate. Naturally we had to capture some of the fantastic songs and stories that were being shared by the Loch around a crackling fire.

The Scottish Crannog Centre is a replica Iron Age village, but walking around the wooden structures, it becomes clear that this is more than the past. This is a potential future, created from a shared point in history. Their ethics of social justice, care and respect for each other, for nature and for the arts are reflected in everything they do. This is a community of sharing: sharing songs, stories and apple crumble made in a cast iron pan over an open fire.

Members of the Crannog team you will hear from in this episode are:

Graham Liney, the resident storyteller and host extraordinaire.

William Kent aka The Blind Bard, an apprentice at the Crannog centre. Will plays the lyre and writes poems and stories.

Isobelle Hanby, a singer from Yorkshire, now based on Loch Tay and also an apprentice at the Crannog. She is using her time in Scotland to learn Scottish folk songs, even one in Doric!

Sadly, earlier this year, the replica crannog in Loch Tay burned down. The good news is that the Crannog Centre have managed to buy a bit of land on the other side of the loch and will start moving the centre across next year. The plan is to rebuild the crannog (or two or three) and to have an even bigger display of archaeological finds and accompanying programme of events in future. If you would like to help fund the rebuild, you can make a donation on their Just Giving page

For this particular weekend in October, the Crannog team had invited a host of talented artists, two of which also feature in this podcast: Christine Kammerer and Rena Gertz.

Christine Kammerer is a Danish singer, lyre player and composer and Master of Arts in Musicology and Cultural Studies, who is mostly known for her work with prehistoric music and performing of musical cultural heritage in her band Gjaldulei.

As the main composer of the band, Christine Kammerer studies ancient musical structures and searches through the sagas and the cultural history of the Viking Age, to create new compositions. Composing on her lyre (a replica of the one found in the Sutton Hoo excavation) she marries prehistoric soundscapes, with Nordic and Celtic folk tonalities. Her approach to composing is experimental, and has roots in music archeology, music history, cultural history and the sagas.

Her performances, as both a solo singer and with her bands, are characterised by the theatricality of musical theatre and the storytelling characteristics of the bard. She will always weave stories and facts about the history and culture of the Vikings, of the music and instruments of their time, and Nordic folklore in between her songs.

Christine does a lot of international collaborations. At the moment she is working with HC Mobech (DK) and Kjell Braaten (NO) on a composition, which is based on research on Nordic Animism by PhD. Rune Hjarnø Rasmussen. The composition is based on the symbolism of the raven, and its occurance in cultures across the globe. Through music and video we wish to convey the potential of the raven as a cross-cultural symbol of unity between people from all backgrounds and cultures, and a symbol of man's connectivity to nature. 

Over the past 5 years Christine has been on radio shows in Denmark, UK, USA and the Netherlands, playing her songs and talking about her music. Especially about her work with pre-historic music. With her band Gjaldulei she performed for Her Majesty Queen Margrethe II, at the opening of the exhibition “Togtet” at the National Museum of Denmark and she recently performed at the Scottish International Storytelling Festival (2021).

In 2021 her song “Eversong” was among the finalists in World Songwriting Awards.

Besides working with folk music, she has also worked with creating awareness about mental illness and trauma through music. She did so on her EP "Growing Pains" (2020)


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Rena Gertz came to Scotland in 1996 to do postgraduate work in law. Writing her dissertation during the summer, she was looking for something to do during the evenings and discovered that Aberdeen Gaelic Choir was rehearsing on Tuesday nights. Curious, she went along and, as they say, the rest is history. She fell in love with the beautiful music and learned the language. Since then, she has been taught songs by some of the great singers and tradition bearers in the Gaelic world and has built a repertoire of a variety songs over the years. Singing in various languages has become one of her greatest joys and she loves sharing her songs and their stories with an audience. She now sings in Scots, English, Gaelic and Italian – languages she also speaks – in addition to songs in her native German language. She particularly loves to focus on the background and history behind the songs. She has been performing solo and with an Irish band that sadly has since stopped playing together.  

For a number of years, Rena has been performing with a Sgioba Luaidh, a tweed waulking group, in paces like the museum village in Auchindrain and at the Jacobite Day at Beinnglas. She has learned most of her waulking songs from Rona Lightfoot, whose mother Kate MacDonald (Bean Eardsisdh Raghnaill) had over 260 working songs recorded for the School of Scottish Studies.  

In 2013, she won the Learners’ Traditional Singing Competition at the National Mod, the first non-UK person to have that honour. So far, she has recorded songs for a compilation CD and hopes to record her own album with an eclectic mix of songs and languages.  

For over 4 years, Rena has been supporting the Scottish Crannog Centre as a volunteer, first as a Gaelic singer only, now also as a guide, introducing visitors to food and cooking in the Iron Age. In October 2021, Rena performed a weaving song at the International Storytelling Festival in the Crannog Centre and sang other songs in Gaelic and German.  

Rena is keen to pass on the wonderful tradition of Gaelic working songs and offers workshops learning waulking songs, which will culminate in the participants sitting at a table experiencing a ‘luadh’, waulking a piece of cloth and singing the old songs. 

Members of our own team who were involved are Alison Phipps, Dr Gameli Tordzro and Naa Densua Tordzro.

Speakers in order of appearance:

Dr Gameli Tordzro – UNESCO RILA team
Prof Alison Phipps – UNESCO RILA team
Isobelle Hanby – Scottish Crannog Centre
William Kent – Scottish Crannog Centre
Rena Gertz – Singer and volunteer at the Scottish Crannog Centre
Christine Kammerer – Singer and composer
Graham Liney – Scottish Crannog Centre
Dr Gameli Tordzro – UNESCO RILA team
Naa Densua Tordzro – UNESCO RILA team
Prof Alison Phipps – UNESCO RILA team
Dr Gameli Tordzro – UNESCO RILA team

Episode 18: World Words (28/09/2021)

Episode 9 of series "The Sounds of the Spring School 2021".

In this episode you will hear a five words and the stories behind them, collected for the workshop World Words by Marzanna Antoniak. The workshop took place on 27 May 2021 at the UNESCO RILA Spring School: The Art of Integration 2021.

E18 transcript

More details about the World Words project and a space to submit your story:

Mary McCabe lives in Glasgow. Her books include: fiction Everwinding Times and Two Closes and a Referendum, non-fiction Streets Schemes and Stages and faction Stirring the Dust. A children’s book and several radio plays have appeared in German translation. Dozens of her poems and stories in Scots, English and Gaelic have been anthologised. Politically active, she is a member of PEN International.

John Cavanagh is a voiceover artist, radio presenter, writer, record producer, creator of music, events, and occasional operator of a record label. Before all of those things happened, John’s interest in mechanical music led him from searching for machines and records to being in the antique trade in his teens and it’s from this time that John’s chosen a story to share for World Words.

Abdelrahman Mohammed is an Arabic language teacher for non-native speakers. He has worked in schools in Dubai and Cairo, and now teaches on Italki, originally from Cairo, Egypt, he is based in Russia. He loves reading and writing poetry in Arabic and enjoys cooking cooking Egyptian and Mediterranean meals, this includes kofta on which he based his World Word story.

Maria Marchidanu is a Scottish Literature PhD scholar at Glasgow University. In 2017, she was the editor and project coordinator of the literary anthology 'You Don't Look British'. Contact: Anna Bogodist is a theatre director and producer based in Russia. She loves water and adores Scotland. She chose to share the word ‘Skye’.

John Cavanagh - Anglosaxon - Gepungen
Mary McCabe - Scots Gaelic - Maide-Crochaidh
Maria Marchidanu - Arabic - banat - بنات
AbdelRahman Mohammed - Arabic/Russian - kofta - кофта - كفتة
Anna Bogodist - Scottish - Skye

Episode 17: Dar to Dunoon - a closer look (13/09/2021)

Episode 8 of series "The Sounds of the Spring School 2021".

Tawona Sitholé, Kate Cowcher, Madeleine Conn, Elikem Logan and Meredith Loper discuss a two year research project to document twelve works of modern art from East and Southern Africa from the Argyll Collection. The efforts to track down their makers and trace the artefacts journeys from the African continent to Argyll.

Resources and further information:

Episode 16: Artists on Conflict  (30/08/2021)

Episode 7 of series "The Sounds of the Spring School 2021".  

CONTENT ADVISORY - This recording contains discussion of war, genocide and war crimes which some listeners may find upsetting.  

UNESCO RILA Affiliate Artists Robert McNeil MBE and I.D. Campbell, describe and reflect on their artwork which remembers the atrocities of Srebrenica and the Bosnian war. The discuss the power of art as a means to express, process, mediate and communicate the most extreme of experiences.  

Robert McNeil

Iain (I.D.) Campbell 

Media coverage: Kelvingrove Museum exhibition shines a light on Srebrenica atrocity  

Episode 15: Poetry from the Spring School (16/08/2021)

The sixth episode of The Sounds of the Spring School 2021 series is a selection of poetry created during the event. Scroll down to see the full list of speakers and sessions these poems came from.

The poems you have just listened to were written and/or read by, in order of appearance:

Martha Orbach
Rachel Salzano
Dan Fisher
Bella Hoogeveen
Alison Phipps
Rachel Morley
Nerea Bello
Vivien White
Esa Aldegheri
Vicky Mohieddeen
Sarah Cox
Tawona Sitholé
Lucy Cathcart-Frödén

They were created during the following sessions:

Martha Orbach's workshop To Build a Home on 18/05 and 19/05/2021.

Lucy Cathcart-Frödén and Rachel Morley's workshop Designing a Ritual in Response to Loss on 21/05/2021.

Giovanna Fassetta and Esa Aldegheri's workshop Take Wing: Multilingual Flying for Weary Times on 20/05/2021.

Sarah Cox' workshop 'You and me, we're the same. You struggle with Tigrinya, and I struggle with English': Language Ecologies and Linguistic Repertoires on 21/05/2021.

Vicky Mohieddeen's workshop Life in the Time Workshop: Conversations on 27/05/2021.

For more information about the Spring School, please see this page.

Episode 14: To Build a Home (02/08/2021) 

The fifth episode in The Sounds of the Spring School 2021 series with Martha Orbach is a collection of reflections from her workshops on 18 and 19 May 2021. Please scroll down for the full show notes.

Speakers in order of appearance:

Martha Orbach
Maria Grazia Imperiale
Dr Angelika Mietzner
Nerea Bello
Naa Densua Tordzro
Rachel Morley
Prof Alison Phips
Becky Duncan
Tawona Sitholé
Rachel Salzano

Martha Orbach is an Affiliate Artist with the UNESCO RILA project. If you have any comments or questions you would like to share with her, you can reach her through and through her various social media channels. For more information about her work, please visit

Episode 13: The Art of Integration: M'Aidez, May Day and MacIntyre (19/07/2021) 

The fourth episode in The Sounds of the Spring School 2021 series with Dr Argyro Kanaki is based on her presentation of 25 May 2021.  The introduction is by Lauren Roberts. 

Societies and languages sail along beside each other, but they also influence each other as they move. Meanings of words interrelate with histories, which are our source of interpretation and our excuses for events and life stories.

This episode is a critical discussion on humanitarianism and human-centred understanding of the ‘Other’, using the work of the Scottish philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre as a guide. Argyro comments on how the moral picture we create is interwoven with the other narratives in our societies and all their people, as we struggle to understand ethics of care, and our excuses for the lack of it.  

Argyro Kanaki is a Lecturer in Education at the University of Dundee, Scotland. Argyro currently researches metalinguistic awareness and its relations with language policy and language practices.  

More information about The Spring School can be found here 

Episode 12: Interview with Nazek Ramadan (05/07/2021)

This is the third episode of series The Sounds of the Spring School 2021. In this episode Ken Gordon interviews Nazek Ramadan. The introduction is by Lauren Roberts.

Ken Gorden is a Scottish podcast maker, best known for his podcast channel Refugee Voices Scotland. He has made more than 100 podcasts and made most of his biggest podcasting mistakes when making podcasts for work for Enterprise Europe Network Scotland. He still makes mistakes because that’s how you learn stuff (he says). Refugee Voices Scotland is a channel that aims to capture refugee stories. Not sob stories, but actual stories about New Scots, their interests and ambitions. The podcast follows a loose format, where Ken asks his interviewees what they would like to talk about and the conversation flows on from there. Find all his episode on

In 2020, Ken Gordon and Sadie Ryan (Accentricity Podcast) created a guest series for our podcast UNESCO RILA: The sounds of Integration. Scroll down to find their episodes or have a look at our Soundcloud page.

Nazek Ramadan is the director of Migrant Voice. Migrant Voice is a migrant led organization working to amplify migrant voices in the media and public life to counter xenophobia and to build support for the rights of their communities. So migration brings a wealth of benefits to Britain and Migrant Voice believes that the best antidote to divisive rhetoric is real stories told by real people. Migrant Voice brings migrants from all backgrounds together, discusses their concerns and translate them into innovative campaigns or research projects to ensure these important issues are not forgotten. Migrant Voice offers professional media training, support and connections with the media. Their work makes national headlines on TV, on local radio and in newspapers and magazines and they’ve branched out also into digital media. Migrant Voice has regional hubs in London, Birmingham and Glasgow and membership is open to all migrants and non-migrants wanting to engage in creative and positive change. More information on

The full transcript of this episode will be uploaded to this page within the next few weeks.

Episode 11: Reciprocity and the senses: a reply to mayday (21/06/2021)

This is the second episode of a new series called The Sounds of the Spring School 2021. This episode is presented by Prof Anne Storch and Dr Angelika Mietzner (University of Cologne) and is based on their workshop on 20 May.

In our world the call for help is a daily occurrence: in a fundamentally disruptive world, a call for help needs to be received with action – of any kind. This is, as Walter Benjamin (2019 [1940]: 697) observes, not at all a recent contemporary experience, but one that has been made by people throughout history. 

It is in hospitality and the ritual exchanges of gifts, communal work, the arts of friendship and conversation that the knowledge about the emergency state and our task or responsibility to reply to it is inscribed into cultural concepts of time and space. Hospitable practices are a means to resist, when the world falls apart and to reconstruct community. And its fragments are all the small parts that make up a functioning and human society.

Listen as Anne and Angelika provide an introduction to the scent of language, transparency in multilingual encounters, the elegance in reciprocity and the hospitality of time shared while waiting.

Anne Storch is a Professor in the Institute of African Studies at the University of Cologne, Germany. She has published widely on African languages, African sociolinguistics, tourism and critical heritage studies, metalinguistic discourse and colonial linguistics.

Angelika Mietzner is a Senior Lecturer in the Institute of African Studies at the University of Cologne, Germany. Her research interests include Nilotic languages, African sociolinguistics, anthropological linguistics and tourism.

See our Spring School website for more information about this workshop and our other sessions. 

Episode 10: Comforting Sounds - Tawona Sitholé (07/06/2021)

This is the first episode of a new series called The Sounds of the Spring School 2021. Tawona Sitholé introduces us to 16 sounds collected during his workshop Comforting Sounds, part of the UNESCO RILA Spring School: The Arts of Integrating 2021. Can you guess what these sounds are?

Did you manage to guess the sounds? Here is the list of answers:

  1. A xoxua (black bird)
  2. Boiling eggs for breakfast
  3. Purring cat
  4. Water running over two bottles of beer in a stream in the Scottish Highlands
  5. A crackling campfire
  6. A musical box made by one of the participant’s dads
  7. A robin
  8. The daughter of one of the participants going down a slide
  9. Washing machine
  10. Cicadas
  11. A train and some songbirds
  12. Bees buzzing in the hedgerows near Barnard Castle, England
  13. Another little stream
  14. Tawona playing Mbira outside, some birds tweeting
  15. A kettle and boiling water getting poured into a mug
  16. An orchestra tuning 

Episode 9: The sounds of 2017-2020 part 2 (24/05/2021)

In this second episode of our musical mini-series, Fergus McNeill will talk more about the inspiration for his song Shoemaker's Son. He mentions his work with Vox Liminis, more information about that initiative can be found here: 
More information about Fergus and his work can be found here:  

Episode 8: The sounds of 2017-2020 part 1 (10/05/2021)

This is the first episode of a new mini-series on the music that was composed and/or performed during the period 2017-2020, which was the first iteration of the UNESCO Chair in Refugee Integration through Languages and the Arts (RILA). 

This episode is presented by Tawona Sitholé, artist in residence at UNESCO RILA.

Songs performed are:

Shoemaker's Son by Fergus McNeill. This was performed at the Solas Festival in 2019, as part of the UNESCO RILA strand of their programme. More info about that event can be found here. More info on Fergus McNeill can be found here

Bavar Be Farda by Farzane Zamen. is an Iranian singer-songwriter and music producer based in Glasgow-Scotland. She has written and recorded in varied styles that include the Farsi songs of her homeland as well as progressive electronic music. She performed this song at the UNESCO RILA Refugee Cycle in 2019, to symbolise resilience. More information about Farzane can be found on her website. More information and a video of the Refugee Cycle can be found here

Mandela by Clare Robertson. Clare is a musician, singer, songwriter and sound healer born of African Scottish descent. Mandela was commissioned by UNESCO RILA and subsequently performed in the University of Glasgow Chapel as part of Black History Month 2019. More about the event here. For more information on Clare's work, please visit her website.

At the end of the episode, Tawona refers to the UNESCO RILA Spring School: The Arts of Integrating. More information about that free 2-week festival can be found here.

Episode 7: "People aren’t as bad as you think they are" (26/04/2021)

This episode is the fifth and final episode of guest series "What community means to you" made by Sadie Ryan, who makes the podcast Accentricity, and Ken Gordon, who makes the podcast Refugee Voices Scotland

Below is some information about each of the people whose voices you can hear in this episode, in order of appearance.

Tegan Brudenell is a scientist helping the UKs COVID19 pandemic response at the lighthouse lab. She spends her free time volunteering with numerous organisations including the inclusive homework club where she is a higher biology tutor. The Inclusive Homework Club is a non-for-profit organisation which provides educational support to children with additional needs and from disadvantaged backgrounds. The team of volunteer tutors provide literacy and numeracy support to students in one-to-one and group sessions. The support not only helps children succeed academically, it also helps them to build confidence and reach their potential.

Find out more on this website

Inclusive Homework Club Instagram.

Inclusive Homework Club Facebook page.

Urwah Bashir, Student and baker in Glasgow, and attends the Inclusive Homework Club.

Cat Dunn is a social art researcher/producer, activist, and  artist.  As social art researcher/producer her work seeks to engage and create dialogue about Identity as seen through marginalised communities especially focusing on black womxn, and engages additional inclusive subjects such as the civil rights movement, slavery, racism, and feminism, often investigating those aspects that are all too frequently hidden or misrepresented.  Her latest project 'NOWYOUSEEUS' can be viewed here:

Dunn holds a Masters with Distinction in MLitt Curatorial Practice (Contemporary Art) and a BA Hons in Jewellery Design and Silversmithing from The Glasgow School of Art.

Dunn is a volunteer and mentor with Empower Women for Change - Thistles and Dandelions Heritage Project and is a Committee member of Transmission Gallery, Glasgow.

Empower Women for Change was formed in 2015 in response to the growing needs of diverse women in Scotland where gaps in support were identified in relation to the empowerment and advancement of women’s rights and active participation in all aspects of civil, economic and political settings. Thistles and Dandelions aims to celebrate the history of Glasgow’s women over the last 50 - 100 tears and to support ethnic minority women to develop heritage skills

Find out more about Empowering Women for Change and the Thistles and Dandelions project on this website.

Thistles and Dandelions Facebook page

Thistles and Dandelions Twitter

Ayana Al-hadi is a student in Glasgow from Holland and participant in the Thistles and Dandelions Project.

Cynthia Bahi is a volunteer with Empowering Women for Changer and the Thistles and Dandelions project.

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Episode 6 - "Love... was the most important thing" (11/04/2021)

This episode is the fourth episode of a five-part guest series entitled "What community means to you" made by Sadie Ryan, who makes the podcast Accentricity, and Ken Gordon, who makes the podcast Refugee Voices Scotland.  

Below is some information about each of the people whose voices you can hear in this episode, in order of appearance.

Racheal Smith is the Operations Manager for Kinning Park Complex.

Kinning Park Complex is an independent community owned space in the southside of Glasgow, home to a diverse range of organisations, groups, artists and activists. Racheal has been leading the support team throughout the covid pandemic." Find out more about Kinning Park complex on their website.

Ewain Black is a Training and Support Worker with Social Bite, Social Bite began life as a small cafe in Edinburgh, Scotland, in August 2012 and is now a major employer of homeless people as well as the largest provider of free freshly made free food in the UK to those in need. Social Bite is on a mission to bring people together, to build a collaborative movement to end homelessness.

Found out more on their website

Fairooz Nangarhari is originally from Afghanistan and moved to the UK in November 2016 after going through the asylum process. After graduation from ESOL in May 2018 he secured a place with the University of Glasgow in community development and is currently studying in 3rd year. He is doing his placement with Cranhill Development Trust and set up a Refugee- led group called Share My Voice. Share My Voice helps new Scots with integration.

You can find out more on their Twitter page

Farzane Zamen is an Iranian singer-songwriter and music producer based in Glasgow-Scotland. In 2017 she was awarded a prestigious Artist Protection Fund fellowship for artist residency hosted by Centre for Contemporary Arts of Glasgow. Before moving to Glasgow Farzane worked as an underground musician in Iran without having the opportunity to perform in public because of the Islamic laws applied in the country. After the revolution in 1979 women’s solo voice was banned and many of the artists and singers had to leave the country.

After moving to Glasgow Farzane has been very active in Glasgow’s music scene and found herself more as a performing artist.

She has taken part in important music festivals and events in Scotland and Europe; Including Safe Havens Malmo-Sweden 2018, Celtic Connection Glasgow 2019, Edinburgh Iranian Festival 2019, Solas Festival, etc.

During the pandemic, she has performed online concerts working with different organisations, including Transition London, Live Music Now Scotland.

At the moment she's working on a project called "Reviving the Folk Songs of Azerbaijan" which is funded by Creative Scotland to give a new life to folk songs she remembers from her grandmother singing them; reviving her oral tradition in her own musical language.

Find out more about Farzane and listen to her music here:

The conversations in this episode took place in October and November 2020.
The guest series "What community means to you" was commissioned by the UNESCO Chair in RILA in September 2020.

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Episode 5 - "It's a place where you can feel safe" (29/03/2021)

This episode is the third episode of a five-part guest series entitled "What community means to you" made by Sadie Ryan, who makes the podcast Accentricity, and Ken Gordon, who makes the podcast Refugee Voices Scotland

Below is some information about each of the people whose voices you can hear in this episode, in order of appearance.

Tawona Sitholé is an Artist in Residence with the UNESCO Chair for Refugee Integration through Languages and the Arts, and a Research Associate with MiDEQ. Better known as Ganyamatope (his ancestral family name) his heritage inspires him to connect with other people through poetry, music and storytelling. He is co-founder of Seeds of Thought non-profit arts group.

Christine Bacon has been Artistic Director of ice&fire theatre for 10 years. She has written various plays for the company, run several participatory creative projects and is founder of ice&fire's national outreach network Actors for Human Rights.

Seb Aguirre is the Director of Actors for Human Rights, a queer human rights activist and an actor from the Chilean refugee Diaspora. He trained in acting at the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama and has also worked for almost a decade at the international secretariat of Amnesty International.

ice&fire explores human rights stories through performance. Follow them on Twitter @iceandfireuk.

David Jackson is a Community Development Worker at Cranhill Development Trust - a charity which works holistically with the community of Cranhill and the east of Glasgow. David also co-ordinates the East Glasgow Integration Network, helping to support and advocate for Asylum Seekers, Refugees, and people from other ethnic backgrounds in the east of Glasgow.

Ensemble is an award-winning community songwriting project based in Glasgow, Scotland, funded by Creative Scotland’s ‘Youth Music Initiative’ in partnership with Wheatley Care. Ensemble supports young people, many with lived experience of homelessness and mental health issues, to write and record songs with the help of professional musicians. Find out more by visiting their website or following them on Twitter @WCEnsemble

This episode includes the voices of five people who are involved in the Ensemble Project: Donna Macocia, Michael Timmins, Louise McCraw, Stephanie McCrystal and Andrew Sinclair. 

The songs that can be heard in this episode are Battlefield by Andrew Wackoo Sinclair, Louise McCraw and Jamie Scott, and Nightlight by Stephanie McCrystal, Jill O’ Sullivan and Djana Gabrielle. Louise McCraw writes and performs under the name Goodnight Louisa, and her debut single ‘Hollow God’ was awarded the No. 1 Top Scottish Tune of 2019. You can hear more music by her here and here.

The conversations in this episode took place in October and November 2020.
The guest series "What community means to you" was commissioned by the UNESCO Chair in RILA in September 2020.

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Episode 4 - "What does community mean to you?" (15/03/2021)

This episode is the second episode of a five-part guest series entitled "What community means to you" made by Sadie Ryan, who makes the podcast Accentricity, and Ken Gordon, who makes the podcast Refugee Voices Scotland

This episode features stories from four people who have experienced migration of one kind or another. Below is some information about each of them, in order of appearance.

Clare McBrien is a community musician who writes and records under the name Mima Merrow. Her debut EP, Good Grief, was released on the 4th December 2020 and is at once a throw away expression of surprise and a nod to the overarching theme of the EP; to allow oneself a moment to experience the full force of our grief before moving forward. As well as producing her own music, she facilitates songwriting and music making workshops in a wide variety of contexts, working with people to create their own music. She has worked with people in the criminal justice system, adults and children with additional support needs and disabilities, people experiencing homelessness and asylum seekers and refugees. Contact her at

Mehdi Saki is the Participation Manager at Glasgow Night Shelter. You can find them on Twitter @GlasgowShelter. If you would like to support their work with a donation, please email

Kira is 4 years old, so she doesn’t have a website yet. She recently moved from Glasgow to St Andrews.

Nerissa Howard was born in Palestine and raised in Glasgow by her American mother and Scottish grandparents. She graduated from the University of Stirling and the University of Glasgow with degrees in Political Science. She now lives in Prague teaching English.

The songs that can be heard in this episode are ‘Invisible Lines’ and ‘Freckles’ by Mima Merrow.

The conversations in this episode took place in October and November 2020.
The guest series "What community means to you" was commissioned by the UNESCO Chair in RILA in September 2020.

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Episode 3 - "We're all allowed to be who we are" (01/03/2021)

This episode is the first episode of a five-part guest series entitled "What community means to you" made by Sadie Ryan, who makes the podcast Accentricity, and Ken Gordon, who makes the podcast Refugee Voices Scotland

This episode features stories from five Glasgow residents. Below is some information about each of them, in order of appearance.

Marzanna Antoniak is a culture animator, community development worker, and a language teacher with a special interest in working with people who have had little experience of formal education. Originally from Poland, she made Scotland her home in 2008. She is the cofounder of the Cosmopolis Creative Group[] and has programmed cross-cultural festivals and events around Glasgow and beyond.

Dio Anemogiannis is a cultural practitioner with endless curiosity, and the founder of NACUSSO, a collective exploring active citizenship, and community building through sound, storytelling and media-based practices. Find out more on Instagram (@nacusso_stories), and Facebook (@nacusso).

Aga Paulina Mlynczak is an Artist/Curator who has delivered successful independent exhibitions in Copenhagen and Glasgow - most notably in Tramway - ‘RELAY’ (July’19). While holding a Curator/Director position at 16 Nicholson Street Gallery, she produces and specialises in media and installation art. She has a Masters degree in Fine Art (GSA), graduated from ‘Fatamorgana’ School for Art Photography and collaborated with Copenhagen Film Workshop. Her art practice is informed by research into participatory practices and language. Now, Mlynczak is developing an online iteration of her project which concerns democratisation of communication in multicultural environments - ‘Teach Me a Word You’re Afraid to Forget’. 

Nell Cardozo is a Glasgow-based curator. She currently works in the curatorial collaborative of three that directs 16 Nicholson Street Gallery. Previous to, or alongside this role she has worked at the Scottish National Galleries as a Gallery Assistant and at the Gallery of Modern Art, Glasgow curating GROWTH: an exhibition of youth artists. Cardozo graduated with an English Literature MA and a Museum Studies MSc at Glasgow University, where her thesis focused on investigating accessibility in online databases. She has also led educational activities with family and lower-income audiences at schools and museums in Albany, NY. will launch in February 2021. Visit the website to record your word and explore the growing archive. The opening night of the group show will be 21st May 2021, at 16 Nicholson Street Gallery in Glasgow. For exact launch dates and times follow @teach_me_a_word on Twitter, or follow the gallery @16nicholsonstreet on Instagram.

Shobhita Achraya is a university student studying physics and working with the Ensemble songwriting project. She is also involved with the Hidden Rhythms project, where her and her friends have fun together while making music and drama. 

The songs that can be heard in this episode are ‘We Are The Sun’ and ‘You Are Enough’ from the Hidden Rhythms EP, which is available on Soundcloud. Hidden Rhythms is a project run by YCSA, a group which supports young people in Glasgow Southside.

The languages you can hear in this episode are, in order of appearance, English, Polish, Malayalam, Farsi, Pashto, Shona and Greek.

The conversations in this episode took place in October and November 2020.
The guest series "What community means to you" was commissioned by the UNESCO Chair in RILA in September 2020.

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Episode 2 - Tawona Sitholé introduces his poem Cape Coast Caper (22/08/2020)

In 2019, Tawona visited Elmina slave castle in Cape Coast, Ghana, as part of the MIDEQ project. In this poem, he shares that experience. It is being released here to mark the International Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade and its Abolition 2020.

Click here to read the poem.

Episode 1 - Professor Alison Phipps' intro to the UNESCO Chair programme (23/01/2018)

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Affiliate podcast: Refugee Voices Scotland

From 17 March 2020 we are suspending all LIVE in person podcast recordings due to Coronavirus - however they will all be done online and will be available in due course.  

Thanks to Refuweegee for hosting us at their headquarters on Byres Road up til now.

Previous interviews in this series:

  • Olivia Ndoti, Community Activist and student at the University of Glasgow
  • Ngqabutho Mpofu, DJ and Chair of Ignite Theatre
  • Nihaya Jaber, from Gaza, PhD candidate at the University of Glasgow

About Refugee Voices Scotland

We make podcasts that capture refugee stories.

Refugee Voices Scotland podcasts amplify refugee stories to counteract distortion of their situation in the media. We give refugees and refugee support organisations a voice.

We aim to make a difference to public attitudes to refugees in Scotland and the UK. Our podcasts are a way for refugees and refugee support organisations to tell their story.  We support all efforts to make refugees feel safe, secure and welcome in Scotland.

Affiliate podcast: Accentricity podcast

Accentricity logo

Accentricity Podcast is a podcast about language and identity: how the way we speak connects with who we are.

The podcasts are made by Sadie Durkacz Ryan, with production support from John McDiarmid and music by Seb Philp.

Sadie is a lecturer in sociolinguistics at Glasgow University. She recently finished a PhD, where she worked with Polish teenagers who live in the East End of Glasgow, and found out about the links between language use and identity for them. To find out more about her academic work, follow @sadie_d_ryan on Twitter.

John is a freelance radio producer, cameraman, documentarian, broadcaster and journalist. His production company is called Telt Media. To find out more, follow @teltmedia on Instagram. He speaks Gaelic and English. He is interested in the stories behind people's accents.

Episodes 5 and episode 6 are a 2-parter about multilingualism, featuring Professor Alison Phipps discussing the concept of linguistic hygiene, and how we can question and disrupt our linguistic hygiene practices.

Accentricity fan art

Affiliate podcast: The Art of Bridging

The Art of Bridging is a podcast from the Distant Voices project. Over the last four years, we‘ve been bringing people together to write songs in and around the Scottish criminal justice system. We set out to learn more about what it‘s like to come home after prison, and to try to build bridges through songwriting and creative practice. In the Art of Bridging, the community of people around Distant Voices - all of whom are connected to the criminal justice system in different ways - share some of what we‘ve made and learned along the way. Whether you‘re a music-lover, a community organiser or a system changer, we hope you‘ll enjoy this mix of thought-provoking conversations and compelling, challenging and beautiful tunes.

Distant Voices is a collaboration between arts organisation Vox Liminis, the University of Glasgow, the University of Edinburgh, and the University of the West of Scotland, funded by the Economic and Social Research Council (Award No: ES/P002536/1)

Pick your preferred link below to listen to the podcast.


The RILA team on other podcasts

Here you'll find episodes from other podcast channels that the team have been involved in. If you host a postcast series and are interested in talking to our team about a collaboration or contribution from our team, please contact Bella on

Hope Against Hope: Spirituality & Climate Change Vodcasts for COP26 - Episode 2: Hope in the making (01/11/2021)

Spiritual reflections on art and hope in the context of deepest loss hosted by UNESCO Professor Alison Phipps with the UNESCO artists and scholars Hannah Thomas and Hyab Yohannes.

Beginning on 31 October 2021 and continuing throughout COP26, this series of vodcasts features contributions from leading scholars, representatives of faith movements, creative artists, and climate activists, who will reflect upon the spiritual challenges of the climate crisis. 

See the full list of episodes here.

UofG Spotlight - Episode 17 (30/09/2021)

On this week’s episode we speak to Professor Alison Phipps, UNESCO Chair in Refugee Integration through Languages and the Arts, and Hyab Yohannes, UofG PhD scholar, about their work on refugees and their integration into the societies that they have come to.

We also talk to Dr Ali Fraser, Director of the Scottish Centre for Crime and Justice Research, about his research on public health, youth and violence reduction, including work on the ‘Changing Violence’ project.

Timestamps 01:03 Dr Ali Fraser 21:52 Professor Alison Phipps and Hyab Yohannes

"Integrating asylum seekers and refugees to build a more inclusive, equal society" (19/08/2021)

In S03E05 of the Royal Society of Edinburgh Tea and Talk Podcast, Dr Rebekah Widdowfield discusses the issues asylum seekers and refugees face in a post-Brexit Britain with RSE Fellow, Professor Alison Phipps, Professor of Languages and Intercultural Studies at the University of Glasgow and UNESCO Chair in Refugee Integration through Languages and the Arts.

Modern African Art for Schools (10/02/21)

In May 2021, Dunoon Burgh Hall hosted an exhibition of twelve works of modern art from East and Southern Africa from the Argyll Collection. The works were the subject of a two year research project (Dar to Dunoon) to document them, track down their makers and trace their journeys from the African continent to Argyll. This podcast is a conversation about making the exhibition and the future potential for African modern art as educational resources. With:

  • Tawona Sitholé, UNESCO Artist in Residence, University of Glasgow, UK
  • Madeleine Conn, Cultural Coordinator, Argyll and Bute Council
  • Meredith Loper and Elikem Logan, Dar to Dunoon research assistants

"The Importance of Connecting to the Land for Refugees" (10/02/2021)

Prof Alison Phipps is featured in the BBC Radio Scotland Scotland Outdoors podcast discussing with Mark and Euan the importance of connecting to the land for refugees.

Alison on BBC Scotland Outdoors

Book launch Riders on the Storm: The Climate Crisis and the Survival of Being by Alastair McIntosh (27/08/2020)

In August 2020, Professor Alison Phipps chaired the book launch of Riders on the Storm: The Climate Crisis and the Survival of Being by Alistair McIntosh. The launch was hosted in partnership with Climate Fringe and the Centre for Human Ecology, who recorded the event and turned it into a podcast.

The North's inhospitable hospitality towards refugees (16/02/2020)

The University of Glasgow's Professor Alison Phipps is an activist for an end to the awful and lengthy detainment and the inhumane treatment that refugees are put through when they turn up on borders seeking refuge. The UNESCO chair shares her views on how New Zealand is managing with the resettling its refugees.

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Doctor Giovanna Fassetta about her work in Teaching Arabic to Speakers of Other Languages (TASOL) (08/11/2019)

Cultures for Sustainable and Inclusive Peace (CUSP) Network + Podcast

UNESCO Chair Prof Alison Phipps also leads the CUSP N+ project.  The CUSP N+ team have their own podcast series looking at different aspects peacebuilding and conflict transformation. Listen to the CUSP Podcast here